Mesa cards for linuxcnc What are the differences from a user-perspective. 11 pages found: 2. =11. I'm thinking of using the following encoders: I'm currently running mechanical limit and homing switches on a little CNC router using Mesa 5I24 and 7I76 cards. I would go for the 7i76E and be done with it. Thank you guys in advance! Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation. I have found the PDF documentation to be rather good except for the PCB overlay images which are unreadable when printed LinuxCNC Forum. 0000 MHz Clock High frequency: 200. Also some mesa cards (like the 7i76e) also have some analog to digital inputs but you would need a signal amplifier as they go to 32 volts or so. I take it that the switches will play nicely with the cards. I would like to be sure that the hardware will be a good choice and Peripheral Cards Anything I/O Cards Motion Control LinuxCNC Supported Boards Analog Interface Adaptors & Cables Miscellaneous charges. as things stand right now I can ping 192. Mesa cards are add-on cards that offload the high-speed tasks to an FPGA. The sourcing/sinking will change the wiring for inputs/outputs regarding the common used, but any of them will work if you have to do the wiring from scratch, and if you happen to have wrong proximity sensors (PNP instead of NPN and vice versa), a single resistor per sensor should take care of that. mesa card was created by Ondrej. 2) Are there any benefit in using the Mesa I started snooping at the config wizard for mesa cards, yikes! Way more options and sub tabs ro get lost in compared to the parallel port version. I have just pushed a feature branch (andypugh/mesa_modbus) to the LinuxCNC github. You can 100% trust Mesa, many of us know PCW personally. 7i33 4 servo card OR 7I48 6 servo card OR 7I65 8 channel (wiki page says the second 2 don't work yet, but the Mesa manuals say they work with Hostmot2. Relay for mesa cards Start; Prev; 1; Next; End; 1; finemeca; Topic Author; Visitor 17 Jun 2016 09:31 #76200 by finemeca. 7I37TA Isolated I/O card The Wiki page says that the 7i48 and 7i65 aren't completed yet, the manuals for Mesa say they work with Hostmot2? Mesa cards with a Field-programmable gate array (FPGA), interfaced to LinuxCNC computer via Ethernet. Configuration Tools. I have purchased 2x 7i96s Mesa cards. 1 Debian. Or am i just confused and you can use any of the daughter cards and just setup the pins for there needed use? Might not be a bad idea to start (or just think about) another pinned post "Mesa Card Examples". Back when Mesa's products typically did not include Flash chips to store the FPGA configuration data, it was important to the LinuxCNC Project to be able to Hi, Im doing custom configuratons for Mesa cards, and i would like to know what exactly the parameters in module definition mean. Start; Prev; I have two general question with regards to linuxcnc with mesa cards. 2) Are there any benefit in using the Mesa The whole Mesa card combination thing can be very confusing for newbies, hence all the "Will x card work with y?" threads. Mesa offers several attractively priced daughter cards to mix and match depending on what we need. You can run multiple Mesa cards (and even mesa card types) in one machine. Ethernet Connected Boards Thanks JT! I think I will skip the 50-pin cards as well as the DB25/IDC26 cards with more than two channels - I'm under the (perhaps mistaken?) impression that those cards are seldom used by beginners, for Mesa cards are a different beast, although some can do parallel port stuff/pinout, but at a much, much faster rate. There are quite a few Mesa card combinations to accomplish what you need. 10 and open a terminal (Ctrl Alt t) and test the connection. Yes, a 7I76E (or 7I96) is a combined FPGA/controller card and breakout The 7I92 is just the FPGA/controller part and needs a Mesa or parallel port compatible breakout board if not used with a integrated drive/Breakout Mesa cards are add-on cards that offload the high-speed tasks to an FPGA. Any help is really appreciated Nick Attachments: Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation. 121 -- so the ethernet connection is working fine. Toggle Navigation Remember Me Log in Forgot Login? Sign up Index; Recent Requires LinuxCNC 2. I am building a CNC router for mainly wood. I would write down answers to all the questions above and try to find a Mesa card that matches the majority of our requirements. If no firmware is found PnCconf will show a warning and use internal sample firmware - no testing will be possible. There are also plenty of Mesa cards to choose from that work perfectly with Linuxcnc, and we use them to control industrial machines, but at a extremely low price for what they are capable of. The smart-serial protocol is proprietary to Mesa, and not suitable for driving a GS2 (As far as I know). 0ptI been looking Mesa Website and think that a Plug & Go KIT “7I77-5I25 PLUG-N-GO KIT” + “7I64 Isolated remote I/O card” would be a good configuration for my needs. I already have the controller box which is a re purposed rack server case. At the risk of oversimplifying, Mesa cards are a 'system' of extremely capable and fast Short guide to setup your new Mesa control board for LinuxCNC ¶ Mesa 7i96 Setup Guide When you are setting up your Mesa board for the first time, make sure you have all of your settings in mind so you know what to input when the Mesa cards with a Field-programmable gate array (FPGA), interfaced to LinuxCNC computer via Ethernet. Mesaflash is a tool for configuring Mesa cards It is available pre-compiled from the LinuxCNC repository sudo apt-get install mesaflash use mesaflash -h to view usage instructions. maybe future adding axis screw top encoders. Time critical (realtime) tasks are performed on the FPGA card. Which one is to prefer? Regards, Marc I'm putting together a machine running linuxCNC and will need to drive 7 stepper motors + minimal I/O for limit switches, etc. The 5I25T is a low profile PCI card (available with low profile and standard brackets, low profile Short guide to setup your new Mesa control board for LinuxCNC Revision 1. The 7i74 is an RS422 breakout for the Mesa Smart-Serial remote cards (7i64, 8i20, 7i77 etc). If I have this all turned around just kick me and tell me what I have mucked up. 10 --write name_of_the_file. mesa card. 0. I started snooping at the config wizard for mesa cards, yikes! Then power up the cnc h/w block (which would include the 7i76), restart linuxcnc with the Mesa config and would be good to home axis, setup the work piece etc etc. 001mm and ° resolution) go directly into the Mesa card (my maybe configuration is on the bottom of this post). Hello, I use a mesa-type 7i76 card. 8 release, Hardware for the new Preempt-RT Kernel with Ethernet Mesa Cards. bin the bin file needs to be in the same directory as mesaflash utility then. @JackRay, Nice machine! I'm sorry, but I've never used a Pi with Mesa or LCNC. AMC DC servo with resolver analogue +/- 10V (4th axis) 1 No. Relay for mesa cards. Two drivers are supported by LinuxCNC. Anything I/O FPGA Cards. If you already have a Mesa card then this means that no extra hardware is needed. The MESA 5I25T is a low cost, general purpose, FPGA based programmable I/O card for the PCI bus. Replies: 0. I'm retrofitting a Mikron WF41C from Heidenhain to LinuxCNC. I'm curious if it's possible to use two MESA cards in the same machine? Both machines won't run at the same time. 7i95T 6 axes Step and Direction for normal PCI or PCI-E cards For ethernet: sudo mesaflash --device 7i96 --addr 10. It really taxes the computer creating the pules out of the parallel port. I'd just stick to the encoder feedback to the 7i29's and forget the headache of trying to make a linear scale work. PnCConf Wizard. US$310. 7I37TA Isolated I/O card The Wiki page says that the 7i48 and 7i65 aren't completed yet, the manuals for Mesa say they work with Hostmot2? I am new to linuxcnc and Mesa cards and i am stuck with the configuration of the Mesa 7i95t. 10 or greater. A typical application would be to re-purpose the smart-serial port on the 7i96 as a modbus port to control a VFD. This is a case of Mesa being annoyingly too careful with the card details. 10 , or 192. There are basically endless options. I have a 7i92M card and when I try to download a . It uses the Mesa FPGA UARTs (specifically pktUART) to offer real-time modbus connection directly between a Mesa card and a Modbus device. The FPGA runs a firmware known as "" The interface between LinuxCNC and the card is Mesa cards are add-on cards that offload the high-speed tasks to an FPGA. The FPGA runs a firmware known as "" The interface - Page 2. If you are using a Pi then, obviously, PCI isn't going to work. At a later date, I plan to reconfigure the machine, and will instead want to drive 8 servo motors plus a spindle. Views: The STMBL contains an STM32 and plugs in to a Mesa FPGA card just like a Mesa Smart-Serial card. wether im using analog or step\dir is a later question. 7i37TA isolated I/O 24V limit switch and outputs I really like the LinuxCNC and now I have a few machines to retrofit that will need field IOs and have analog servo interface. 121 however, if I try "mesaflash --device 7i97 --readhmid" I get firmware not supported for device. " HostMot2 is an FPGA configuration developed by Mesa Electronics for their line of Anything I/O motion control cards. I will do wiring diagrams with the cards also and upload to this thread. 00 Hello, I'm retrofitting a Mikron WF41C from Heidenhain to LinuxCNC. As an example cards with three of these connectors have 3x24 I/O pins while the new 3x20 has six connectors for 6x24 I/O pins. I have two general question with regards to linuxcnc with mesa cards. The ODROID-C1 has 3,3V compatible l/O, therefore I connected Anyone have cad drawings of the mesa boards? I want to do schematics up in Autocad. 1. Does LinuxCNC offload the step / dir generation to the mesa card? I can't find a place in the docs that says that. There are options to add custom firmware and/or blacklist (ignore) some firmware or boards using a preference Mesa Ethernet cards require LinuxCNC Uspace and work best with the motherboard NIC. Thank you for your help. I have T6-400W servo motors and a Lenovo ThinkCentre m93p PC to run Linuxcnc 2. kinco servo can handle both step\dir 500khz and analog torque\velocity modes with different update frequenzies. The newer HostMot2 driver works with all the [Anything I/O] boards. But it has latency of 300k and is I think it will be useless. After that I don't think they are much different from the ordinary PCI bus Mesa Electronics, the manufacturer of these FPGA cards, provide firmware in source and binary format, under the GPL and other licenses, for their whole range of LinuxCNC-compatible cards. 7i37TA isolated I/O 24V limit switch and outputs Ethernet Boards with Drivers, I/0 and Smart Serial Interface 7i76EU 5 axes Step and Direction. LinuxCNC Supported FPGA-cards. I'm not yet clear regarding the right selection of Mesa Cards. Where to learn to build or modify custom bit files for my Mesa cards? was created by DrKnow65 I have 7i90hd's on parallel ports, 7i90hd on a raspberry pi, 7i92tm's, and 7i98's. 10 --readhmid Granted your board IP is set at 10. Sort By: Show: 3X20-1 External PCIE Anything I/O daughtercard 4I69-25-AIN FPGA based PC104-PLUS Anything I/O card The MESA 4I69 is a general purpose programmable I/O card. The 5i23 has no advantage over the 5i20 as far as EMC goes You can have two 7i29's and two 7i37TA's on the 5i20. LinuxCNC Forum. Hi, I have an ASRock Q1900B-ITX with parallel port, CNC4PC C11 BOB & 2no. I'm Might not be a bad idea to start (or just think about) another pinned post "Mesa Card Examples". 168. The mesa cards available in the selection box are based on what PnCconf finds for firmware on the systems. Toggle Navigation Remember Me for normal PCI or PCI-E cards For ethernet: sudo mesaflash --device 7i96 --addr 10. Mesa Electronics, the manufacturer of these FPGA cards, provide firmware in source and binary format, under the GPL and other licenses, for their whole range of LinuxCNC-compatible cards. But what are these cards actually and why are they so suitable for self-building or retrofitting a CNC Peripheral Cards Anything I/O Cards Motion Control LinuxCNC Supported Boards - Plug-N-Go Kits - Anything I/O FPGA Cards - Anything I/O Daughter Cards - DB25 Daughter Cards - The [MESA Anything I/O] boards are FPGA-based, and can run with different firmwares. I think your best bet is to do some searching in the "Computers" sub-forum, and post a new thread in there (or "Driver Boards") specifically seeking recommendations for Pi + Mesa combinations. Mesa card terminal block part was created by JacobRush I'm looking to make a little PCB with a power rail and a bunch of pull up resistors on it and I'd like to use the same terminal blocks as whats on the MESA cards. If you order a Smart Serial Card with your 7i96 I have a few plug in Smart Serial Connectors donated by unable to set bpw32, fallback to bpw8 Configuration Name: HOSTMOT2 General configuration information: BoardName : MESA7C80 FPGA Size: 9 KGates FPGA Pins: 144 Number of IO Ports: 2 Width of one I/O port: 27 Clock Low frequency: 100. Help with Mesa cards was created by Kadrick. In fact as far as the system is concerned it is a normal smart-serial card. org. C3 index pulse cards, for my lathe conversion. Great work, just for the direct connection (spi), might be an idea for the time being to mention the RPi5 is unsupported at the moment. LinuxCNC Announcements 21 New realtime-modbus driver for Mesa cards. On a lathe I have just started rebuilding I want to use the same cards, but with inductive proximity switches instead. I managed to persuade them to let me send the information in two separate emails, if I recall correctly. It can be configured (at compile-time) with zero or more instances (an object created at runtime) of each of several Modules: encoders (quadrature counters), PWM generators, and step/dir generators. 4-5 axis need and lot input more than old cheap 10$ paraller port card. LinuxCNC Announcements. Note: the 7i77 needs some more work. xxx instead of hm2_5i25. My system uses micro steppers which was overkill. mesa card Start; Prev; 1; Next; End; 1; Ondrej; Offline; Senior Member More. The encoders (XYZ Glass scales, B and C magnet encoder, each 0. Details: SEE ALSO what different have 7i96 E or T or S card, and what id different 7i96 or 7i76 card, i not understand, need found cheapen possiple mesa card to my old pc. Parallel port works properly. org; LinuxCNC. 0000 MHz IDROM Type: 3 Instance Stride 0: 4 Instance Stride 1: 64 Register Hello, I have Mesa 7i90HD card and I want to connect it to ODROID-C1 computer running LinuxCNC. Many of the Mesa cards have encoder inputs which can handle higher frequencies. Can someone please help me get started setting up my Mesa-cards with LinuxCNC? I plan on using the following setup: PC running LinuxCNC -> 7I94 -> 7I77 (for analog servo-motor control with encoder feedback and general I/O in the main control cabinet) 7I94 -> 7I70 (for extra digital inputs in the main control cabinet) 7I94 -> 7I72 (for extra digital outputs in 4 - FPGA CARDS PC CONNECTION Mesa offers FPGA main cards with a variety of different PC connection types. The now im looking at different mesa card combos,have reed on this forum and mesa home page what i could find on these cards but still a Little confused wich one to chose. Relay for mesa cards was created by finemeca. 10 --readhmid Does anyone have a link to a good tutorial on flashing a Mesa card For my lathe I also going to use LinuxCNC, also a 6i25+7i76 kit I think. 9. Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation. Backlinks for: Mesa Cards LinuxCNCKnowledgeBase | RecentChanges | PageIndex | Preferences | LinuxCNC. Configuring LinuxCNC. thanks, /edit I have done some prelim drawings of some Mesa cards. Its not large enough to hold a pc MB, video card, ssd as well as everything else. I want to add two potentiometers for spindle and feed override, Buttons for X+ X- Y+ Y- Z+ Z- B+ B- C+ C- and a Rapid button, Mist and Flood Button and Spindle release button. Last Post 19 Apr 2023 01:01 by andypugh. ping 10. Create a format, perhaps similar to what I did above, and people can post a summary of their machine for others to use as inspiration. bit file using mesaflash (or mesaflash3), I get the message "No 7i92 board found". Many of the MESA FPGA-cards use 50-pin connector that has 24 I/O pins, 24 GND-pins, and Power (GND+VCC). However, it won't run the 2. 1) Should/Would one expect any noticeable difference in the performance or operation of linuxcnc when using something like the Mesa 7I76-6i25 combo, compared to a normal parallel port config. However in many cases there is the option to use parallel or serial connected daughter-cards. Can someone please help me get started setting up my Mesa-cards with LinuxCNC? I plan on using the following setup: PC running LinuxCNC -> 7I94 -> 7I77 (for Mesa cards are not motion controllers, nor do they buffer commands from the PC as with Mach3 & ESS boards. The firmware is open source, portable and flexible. The older Hostmot-4 firmware /driver is most mature, but only works with the 5i20 and is no longer actively developed. The interface between LinuxCNC and the card is in HAL, but at one level above that which you Anyone who has studied LinuxCNC will have come across the term "mesa cards". Just trying to get a feel for what I could expect. Which it will do just fine. Toggle Navigation Remember Me Log in Forgot Login? Sign up Index; Recent Topics; Search; www. Toggle Navigation Remember Me LinuxCNC Forum. I would like to know if there are any updates available so i can use 7i97 ethernet card. I don't own a mesa card yet so I can try this out using LinuxCNC but I do own a spartan 3a I am trying to put a prof of concept together with that and maybe a AC motor and a encoder. Probably something like the little Omron TL series. I would like to use an mesa serial ethernet based card. . Toggle Navigation Remember "The Mesa Configuration Tool is designed to create the configuration files needed by LinuxCNC for Mesa Electronics motion control cards. org This I have two general question with regards to linuxcnc with mesa cards. I'm designing a 6 axis robot with the intent of using absolute encoders on all axis and am wondering what type of absolute encoders can be interfaced to mesa cards and Linuxcnc? From bit of googling I gather that SSI encoders can be used but can SPI or RS-485 encoders?. JR1050 wrote: Fadal's don’t have limit switches, they I'm wanting to get some hardware control of the step/dir with one of the mesa solutions, also will be using quadrature encoders. NAME pncconf - configuration wizard for Mesa cards. I think that the smart-serial cards from Mesa use a dsPIC rather than a µP like the STM32. The sensors are monitoring a 60 tooth sheet-metal trigger wheel; one tooth notch is double depth; one sensor sees 60 pulses per per rev, the other sees one pulse. USB will never work for actual machine control due to inherent latency problems. I have a hand full of daughter boards, 7i85s, 7i88, 7i67d, 7i77, etc. If you do not have a Mesa card then this is obviously no advantage at all. There are basically endless 2) It uses ports on the Mesa card. 121 from factory For flashing the card sudo mesaflash --device 7i96 --addr 10. I have attached the cad files and pdf's. There are many EtherCAT slave There is no problem running several PCI Mesa cards, an ethernet Mesa card (probably) and an SPI card along with a mesa card and Pico card on the parallel ports. 0 covers the following Mesa cards connectors: MESA 7i84 16 OUT 32 IN MESA 7i87 8 ANALOG IN MESA 7i96 ETH STEP/DIR MOTION CONTROL MESA Payment instruction by Lily Wun is to fax my card details over. Hi guys, in aluminium (paint in blue in picture So requirements are Mesa cards for :-3 No. hal file, then communicates with Mesa card to get its config; Linuxcnc then treats the external device as if its physically connected. There are options to add custom firmware and/or blacklist (ignore) some firmware or boards using a preference There are various types of Mesa cards that this configuration utility supports. xxx Linuxcnc has an encoder component that will read a frequency from two pins of a parallel port. ie you can hook together any combination of supported hardware that you want. Hello, after problems with external PCI-e lpt port I decided to use old computer. Custom firmware for Mesa cards - LinuxCNC Mesa offers several attractively priced daughter cards to mix and match depending on what we need. DESCRIPTION pncconf is used to configure systems that use Mesa cards. (LinuxCNC computer) uses a standard ethernet (network) interface - no special hardware is needed on the master. robertspark; Offline; Platinum Member More. AMC VFD flux vector drive encoder Again my lack of LinuxCnc/Mesa experience means I'm still unsure about which route will be taken. Time to I'm trying to sort out the best combination of Mesa cards for a large machine conversion. XRelease EMC Fest 2010 Editing MESA Bitfiles Spartan2 GantryPlasmaMachine LinuxCNC Supported Hardware Mesa Cards Mesaflash OldReleases OptoPciAc5 Pncconf So I was planning to use my Via C7/Unichrome GPU mini itx board to run Linuxcnc. For this from what I can read the 3 phase PWM object already written for mesa cards I think would work just fine. But is it possible to switch in LinuxCNC to make a profile for my mill and one for my lathe? Or is it better to have two separate machines. There are options to add custom firmware and/or blacklist (ignore) some firmware or boards using a preference file. If you order a Smart Serial Card with your 7i96 I have a few plug in Smart Serial Connectors donated by Andy P. A bigger FPGA allows more complicated firmwares. Oh and each Mesa has at least 2 of those very fast parallel ports, and is not limited on what pins can do as the parallel port is, Mesa can do anything on any port at ridiculously high speeds. It is possible to drive a GS2 from the serial port. 8. 10 Ctrl c to stop the ping. I've been testing with a 5i25 + 7i77, Any possible / future LinuxCNC support for the 7i80HD or 7i80DB ? Or - any other options that would enable the PC to be 100+ feet away from the interface cards? LinuxCNC Forum. Wouldn't want anyone to throw money at something that doesn't work yet (grumble grumble grumble). First decision is which connection method is used as this will depend on your computer hardware: • Ethernet Ethernet cable from the LCNC computer (PC or Raspberry Pi) to the Mesa FPGA card The mesa cards available in the selection box are based on what PnCconf finds for firmware on the systems. The pin names for the second card will be different. The only daughter board i can find that seems to have encoder inputs as well as step/dri outputs is the 7i85S. As to ease to configure, an Ethernet card has a slight disadvantage, in that you must first configure it's Ethernet connection. linuxcnc. The mesa store lists so much linuxcnc compatible cards that it is difficult to keep track of what is actually possible. Mesa cards are add-on cards that offload the high-speed tasks to an FPGA. The slaves use special hardware. The FPGA runs a firmware known as "Hostmot2 "The interface between LinuxCNC and the card is in HAL, but at one level above that which you configure with the parallel port. 23 May 2022 12:35 - 23 May 2022 12:35 #243609 by Ondrej. Topic started 19 Apr 2023 01:01, by andypugh. i not understand what different all cards have, 96S or 76 e and proto D version Can someone please help me get started setting up my Mesa-cards with LinuxCNC? I plan on using the following setup: PC running LinuxCNC -> 7I94 -> 7I77 (for analog servo-motor control with encoder feedback and general I/O in the main control cabinet) 7I94 -> 7I70 (for extra digital inputs in the main control cabinet) 7I94 -> 7I72 (for extra digital outputs in Unless you need to run a super fast low latency servo-thread, then maybe stay away from the Ethernet card, but that is a rather unusual case. Searching through the forum I see the following: arghh, looks like I sent out some 7I76E cards with the card name not set. 03 Oct 2021 16:46 #222120 by Kadrick. 10. 7i47S step motor control, encoders, spindle control and analog out. The rest can be done via relays or I'm currently running mechanical limit and homing switches on a little CNC router using Mesa 5I24 and 7I76 cards. I can ping 192. SYNOPSIS pncconf. 20 Mar 2021 18:56 #203011 by robertspark Help with Mesa cards Start; Prev; 1; Next; End; 1; Kadrick; Offline; New Member More. My Mesa Configuration Tool is a simple way to create a LinuxCNC configuration and if needed to flash different firmware to the 7i96S. Plug in a Mesa Ethernet card and set the jumpers for 10. Back when Mesa's products typically did not include Flash chips to store the FPGA configuration data, it was important to the LinuxCNC Project to be able to offer these files as Debian Linuxcnc load the driver from the. Generally speaking, they need to be run with a specific firmware that configures the FPGA on the card to behave in The mesa cards available in the selection box are based on what PnCconf finds for firmware on the systems. what and the max General LinuxCNC Questions. For example, the pin names of a second 6I25 would start with hm2_5i25. AC servos with encoders step/dir closed back to linuxcnc 1 No. They are working on a web-shop. My Uspace install pages. LinuxCNCKnowledgeBase | RecentChanges | PageIndex | Preferences | LinuxCNC. So i am going with seperate PC and CNC boxes.
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